DER BEGRIFF DER MANIA IN PLATONS PHAIDROS. W. J. VERDENIUS. Published Online: | DOI: . Plato’s Phaedrus E. Heitsch: Platon Phaidros. (Platon, Werke, Übersetzung und Kommentar, III4.) Pp. Göttingen: Vandenhoek und Ruprecht, DM

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Socrates states that he is a “seer”. Phaedrus and Socrates both note how anyone would consider Socrates a foreigner in the countryside, and Socrates attributes this fault to his love of learning which “trees and open country won’t teach,” while “men in the town” will.

What are now called his are the work of a Socrates embellished and modernized Sokratous estin kalou kai neou gegonotos. Find it on Scholar. Volume 37 Issue Janpp.

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This page was last edited on 10 Mayat They see some phwidros and miss others, having to deal with their horses; they rise and fall at varying times. Volume 13 Issue 2 Janpp. When Phaedrus begs to hear it however, Socrates refuses to give the speech. Volume 14 Issue 3 Janpp.

Ernst Heitsch – – Hermes 2: Volume 53 Issue 3 Febpp. An XML version of this text is available for download, with the additional restriction that you offer Perseus any modifications you make. Volume 29 Issue 4 Janpp. Lysias was a rhetorician and a sophist whose best-known extant work is a defense speech, ” On the Murder of Eratosthenes.

Plaotn, much like in the Symposiumis contrasted from mere desire of the pleasurable and given a higher, heavenly function.

This rather bold claim has puzzled readers and scholars of Plato’s work for centuries because it clearly shows that Socrates saw genuine value in the irrational elements of human life, despite many other dialogues that show him arguing that one should pursue beauty and that wisdom is the most beautiful thing of all.


Divine madness in turn takes different forms: Views Read Plagon View history.

Dialogues of Plato Philosophy of love Rhetoric Socratic dialogues. Request removal from index. Volume 44 Issue 1 Janpp. Volume 78 Issue 1 Janpp. Phaedrus this document Search for all inflected forms search for “amo” returns “amo”, “amas”, “amat”, etc. Setup an account with your affiliations in order to access resources via your University’s proxy server Configure custom proxy use this if your affiliation does not provide a proxy. paton

The Phaedrus also gives us much in the way of explaining how art should be practiced. Volume 49 Issue 1 Janpp. Bodily objects moved from the outside have no soul, while those that move from within have a soul.

I’ve told you how good it would be for us in my opinion, if this worked out”, [Note 3] the speech plqton to explain all the reasons why it is better to give your favor to a non-lover rather than a true lover. No written instructions for an art can yield results clear or certain, Socrates states, but rather can plaaton remind those that already know what writing is about.

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After Theuth remarks on his discovery of writing as a remedy for the memory, Thamus responds that its true effects are likely to be the opposite; it is a remedy for reminding, not remembering, he says, with the appearance but not the reality of wisdom.

It generally takes 10, years for a soul to grow its wings and return to where it came, but philosophers, after having chosen such a life three times in a row, grow their wings and return after only 3, years. Wikisource has original text related to this article: Volume 94 Issue 3 Octpp.

Volume 12 Issue 1 Janpp. If the lover and beloved surpass this desire they have won the “true Olympic Contests “; it is the perfect combination of human self-control and divine madness, and after death, their souls return to heaven. View text chunked by: Stuttgart and Bad Cannstatt: It is a proof, he says, that will convince “the wise if not the clever”.


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Hartmut Erbse – – Hermes 1: They go on to discuss what is good or bad in writing. Socrates, stating that he is “sick with passion for hearing speeches”, [Note 1] walks into the phqidros with Phaedrus hoping that Phaedrus will repeat the speech. The recent initiates, on the other hand, are overcome when they see a bodily form that has captured true beauty well, and their wings begin to grow.

Volume 69 Issue 1 Janpp. When this soul looks upon the beautiful boy it experiences the utmost joy; when separated from the boy, intense pain and longing occur, and the wings begin to harden.

To acquire the art of rhetoric, then, one must make systematic divisions between two different kinds of things: Wolfhart Henckmann – – Idee Future generations will hear much without being properly taught, and will appear wise but not platton so, making them difficult to get along with. Volume 17 Issue 1 Janpp. Volume 54 Issue 1 Janpp.

Complete Worksed. Volume 65 Issue 1 Janpp. Volume 55 Issue 1 Janpp. It was believed that spirits and nymphs inhabited the country, and Socrates specifically points this out after the long palinode with his comment about listening to the cicadas.

When attacked it cannot defend itself, and is unable to answer questions or refute criticism.